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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.thesuburbanjungle.com/mothering/comment-page-2#comment-6640</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, Jenny you didn&#039;t say the &#039;S&#039; word.  Well now you have officially made the naughty list :)  I think we mothers all have our breaking point and exhibit our frustration in variety of ways.  I have three children and they are doing just fine.  I do try to practice what I preach, but if &quot;shut up&quot; comes out of my mouth then watch out...you know mommy is frazzled to the nth degree.

The brain coach
http://braincoachforkids.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Jenny you didn&#8217;t say the &#8216;S&#8217; word.  Well now you have officially made the naughty list <img src='http://www.suburbanjungle.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think we mothers all have our breaking point and exhibit our frustration in variety of ways.  I have three children and they are doing just fine.  I do try to practice what I preach, but if &#8220;shut up&#8221; comes out of my mouth then watch out&#8230;you know mommy is frazzled to the nth degree.</p>
<p>The brain coach<br />
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks everyone for admitting those human frailties! Reading your stories takes away a bit of the guilt I&#039;ve carried around for the past 19 years for having yelled at my little girl when she was about a year and a half old. I was going through a divorce, working fulltime, had money issues and lord knows what else, and she stepped hard on my last nerve. I was shocked at my outburst, which seemed cruel when I looked at those big blue eyes filling with tears. I never did that again, but I felt unbelievably crappy for having such a weak moment. In fact, I still do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks everyone for admitting those human frailties! Reading your stories takes away a bit of the guilt I&#8217;ve carried around for the past 19 years for having yelled at my little girl when she was about a year and a half old. I was going through a divorce, working fulltime, had money issues and lord knows what else, and she stepped hard on my last nerve. I was shocked at my outburst, which seemed cruel when I looked at those big blue eyes filling with tears. I never did that again, but I felt unbelievably crappy for having such a weak moment. In fact, I still do.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.thesuburbanjungle.com/mothering/comment-page-1#comment-6536</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gotten upset at my son several times over the years but only really &quot;lost my cool&quot; once when he was a little kid. I screamed at him for breaking something by accident. Then he looked up at me with confusion and tears in his eyes and said, &quot;But, dad, remember all those good times we&#039;ve had?&quot;.

That one comment stopped me in my tracks. He was right. Why make such a big deal over a simple (or even not so simple) mistake. Instead, you should be remembering all the great things and memories about your kids.

I gave him a huge hug and apologized. My son is 17 now and to this day, I have never truly lost my temper with him or his younger sister. Thankfully, they&#039;ve rarely given me reason to. They&#039;re both great kids and I thank God for them. I also spend as much time as possible &quot;remembering all the good times&quot; we&#039;ve had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotten upset at my son several times over the years but only really &#8220;lost my cool&#8221; once when he was a little kid. I screamed at him for breaking something by accident. Then he looked up at me with confusion and tears in his eyes and said, &#8220;But, dad, remember all those good times we&#8217;ve had?&#8221;.</p>
<p>That one comment stopped me in my tracks. He was right. Why make such a big deal over a simple (or even not so simple) mistake. Instead, you should be remembering all the great things and memories about your kids.</p>
<p>I gave him a huge hug and apologized. My son is 17 now and to this day, I have never truly lost my temper with him or his younger sister. Thankfully, they&#8217;ve rarely given me reason to. They&#8217;re both great kids and I thank God for them. I also spend as much time as possible &#8220;remembering all the good times&#8221; we&#8217;ve had.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laugh out loud funny. We&#039;ve all been in this position and I own the tee shirt concession.</description>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.thesuburbanjungle.com/mothering/comment-page-1#comment-6532</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenny,

I too have been guilty of the scarlet scream.

The first 35 years of my life I never raised my voice. THEN I HAD KIDS!

I hear that nasty loud person, but I refuse to believe is she is ME.

What I recognize now is that I was really not that passionate about what was going on with others around me to want to raise my voice. I notice that I still don&#039;t raise my voice with others. I don&#039;t own them. They are not mine. Only my children get to hear that crazy women&#039;s voice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenny,</p>
<p>I too have been guilty of the scarlet scream.</p>
<p>The first 35 years of my life I never raised my voice. THEN I HAD KIDS!</p>
<p>I hear that nasty loud person, but I refuse to believe is she is ME.</p>
<p>What I recognize now is that I was really not that passionate about what was going on with others around me to want to raise my voice. I notice that I still don&#8217;t raise my voice with others. I don&#8217;t own them. They are not mine. Only my children get to hear that crazy women&#8217;s voice!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comments have become way more interesting than the article.  I can say that, I wrote it!  You guys are amazing, your insights, and your ability to create an atmosphere where parents feel comfortable discussing their major moments.  Thanks!

J from the B

ps- Jamile- nice to see you here.</description>
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<p>J from the B</p>
<p>ps- Jamile- nice to see you here.</p>
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		<title>By: jamile Nogueira</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamile Nogueira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>usmusicmakers

I am a mother of a 4 and a 7 years-old boys and guess what? What you did happens with everyone, specially if you are a working mom. 
That is ok! You really reflected in every little aspect of yours and your child&#039;s reaction to the incident, of course bad words are not allowed in good parenting, but sometimes it is not so bad to make your kid wake up and think:...&quot;- Oh, well! my mom is human, she is just like my school teacher, my baby sitter, my next door neighbor, the mom I saw at Publix reprehending her child.. and so on.&quot; 
At certain point of my life I had one hr. to commute my son from school to after school care, so I would get done with another four hours of work, and  my six years old knew that. One day, when I picked him up at his school, he started giving me orders during the stressful commuting, he said: &quot;-Today I want to stay with mommy, I am not going to stay on my booster sit, you re going to stop to buy me a gift and a snack, I am hungry, don&#039;t you see...&quot; Not only that, he had a lot more repertoire, let us put some more gas on a bottle of seltzer...He started screaming and kicking inside the car, went to the back sit and started trowing all beach toys at me, I stopped the car, breathed deeply and thought in what I should do... and in a flash I thought so much...I was already spending lots of money with counseling for him, which I though was helpful with children&#039;s school anxiety issues and what was happening to my son on that moment was a case for angry management... I guessed! At that point, I already had reduced my work hours to half and I could not had this situation tear me apart. The first time my son had a mild rehearsal on this same bad behavior, I cried, I called my students, rescheduled all my classes and obviously came home with him for a typical mommy and me day.. But, a second time was too much, my soon was then becoming an expert in driving me crazy...I also thought in how unhappy his future wife would be if marring this little angry monster that he was playing to be... oh yep! I thought on that too...
Anyways, we always have water in the car to easy our days....I stepped out of the car, opened the back door from where he was trowing all the toys at me and gave him a water bottle shower right there at Whole food&#039;s market parking lot, then I picked him up, sat him back on his booster sit without a single word ( I didn&#039;t know what to say) and drove him to a friend to change and baby sit him for me.
Ok, after this, my soon respects me a whole lot more... There is famous American/Indian writer, nobel prize that in one of her interviews for the Time magazine she said:&quot;- I don&#039;t want my children to like me, I want them to respect me and at some extend fear me.&quot; Well, at first I red her statement and it didn&#039;t make sense at all, now it falls into place.
I am very much related to child psychology and think it makes sense to understand and raise healthy and happy children and, this mine whole episode  was very out of the normal. I never had gone off boundaries before, my students respect me and all people wander how can a most hyperactive child can be cooperative around me ... All children, except my 6 years old son at the time.... Then,  I learned from my sons therapist that on that situation I would be better off getting a baby sitter to commute my son after school and that too much giving represents weakness at all men kind&#039;s vocabulary.
Never feel guilty, you worked around the situation with love and a bad word as long as it is not something you can&#039;t say in public, doesn&#039;t hurt a child... You knew that and didn&#039;t combine it with any &quot;f&quot; words or something else... Sometimes we hear many horrible parenting at the beach on a typical family day and to cover it up, I immediately talk to my children about it, so they understand there are people that are more patient then others and appreciate me.
Trust me, what you did it is normal,  but don&#039;t get use to it,  just in case your children start using same words against you. I never repeated the water bottle shower again, we are smarter then we think and  so are our children.

Warm regards,

Jamile Nogueira</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>usmusicmakers</p>
<p>I am a mother of a 4 and a 7 years-old boys and guess what? What you did happens with everyone, specially if you are a working mom.<br />
That is ok! You really reflected in every little aspect of yours and your child&#8217;s reaction to the incident, of course bad words are not allowed in good parenting, but sometimes it is not so bad to make your kid wake up and think:&#8230;&#8221;- Oh, well! my mom is human, she is just like my school teacher, my baby sitter, my next door neighbor, the mom I saw at Publix reprehending her child.. and so on.&#8221;<br />
At certain point of my life I had one hr. to commute my son from school to after school care, so I would get done with another four hours of work, and  my six years old knew that. One day, when I picked him up at his school, he started giving me orders during the stressful commuting, he said: &#8220;-Today I want to stay with mommy, I am not going to stay on my booster sit, you re going to stop to buy me a gift and a snack, I am hungry, don&#8217;t you see&#8230;&#8221; Not only that, he had a lot more repertoire, let us put some more gas on a bottle of seltzer&#8230;He started screaming and kicking inside the car, went to the back sit and started trowing all beach toys at me, I stopped the car, breathed deeply and thought in what I should do&#8230; and in a flash I thought so much&#8230;I was already spending lots of money with counseling for him, which I though was helpful with children&#8217;s school anxiety issues and what was happening to my son on that moment was a case for angry management&#8230; I guessed! At that point, I already had reduced my work hours to half and I could not had this situation tear me apart. The first time my son had a mild rehearsal on this same bad behavior, I cried, I called my students, rescheduled all my classes and obviously came home with him for a typical mommy and me day.. But, a second time was too much, my soon was then becoming an expert in driving me crazy&#8230;I also thought in how unhappy his future wife would be if marring this little angry monster that he was playing to be&#8230; oh yep! I thought on that too&#8230;<br />
Anyways, we always have water in the car to easy our days&#8230;.I stepped out of the car, opened the back door from where he was trowing all the toys at me and gave him a water bottle shower right there at Whole food&#8217;s market parking lot, then I picked him up, sat him back on his booster sit without a single word ( I didn&#8217;t know what to say) and drove him to a friend to change and baby sit him for me.<br />
Ok, after this, my soon respects me a whole lot more&#8230; There is famous American/Indian writer, nobel prize that in one of her interviews for the Time magazine she said:&#8221;- I don&#8217;t want my children to like me, I want them to respect me and at some extend fear me.&#8221; Well, at first I red her statement and it didn&#8217;t make sense at all, now it falls into place.<br />
I am very much related to child psychology and think it makes sense to understand and raise healthy and happy children and, this mine whole episode  was very out of the normal. I never had gone off boundaries before, my students respect me and all people wander how can a most hyperactive child can be cooperative around me &#8230; All children, except my 6 years old son at the time&#8230;. Then,  I learned from my sons therapist that on that situation I would be better off getting a baby sitter to commute my son after school and that too much giving represents weakness at all men kind&#8217;s vocabulary.<br />
Never feel guilty, you worked around the situation with love and a bad word as long as it is not something you can&#8217;t say in public, doesn&#8217;t hurt a child&#8230; You knew that and didn&#8217;t combine it with any &#8220;f&#8221; words or something else&#8230; Sometimes we hear many horrible parenting at the beach on a typical family day and to cover it up, I immediately talk to my children about it, so they understand there are people that are more patient then others and appreciate me.<br />
Trust me, what you did it is normal,  but don&#8217;t get use to it,  just in case your children start using same words against you. I never repeated the water bottle shower again, we are smarter then we think and  so are our children.</p>
<p>Warm regards,</p>
<p>Jamile Nogueira</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
		<link>http://www.thesuburbanjungle.com/mothering/comment-page-1#comment-6419</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can completely relate with what had happened. My girls are 1 year 18 days apart. They are 2 1/2 and 1 1/2. I NEVER thought even when my first was born that I would yell or spank. Wow have things changed!!! I am full time student and full time mother. I am trying to work on this whole juggling life thing. I get stressed,tired,migraines and at times have break downs!! I have found myslef yelling at my 2 1/3 year old for things like begging me for a crakcer then crumbling it up on my bed. SHe would beg for milk in her crib then not take a nap and I come in to find that she spit the milk all over.. Ther are many more instances I wont get into, with her issues with her diaper, yet she wont go on the potty. To make matters worse her 18 month old sister is following after her (both get out of their cribs!! It is comforting to know that I am not alone! Time out dont ever work for me. Some times it take a good yell to get there attention. I hope that having some connections on here we can all support each other!! Oh BTW the guilt I feel when I yell and spank at times is unbearable. When she cries for me and says I love you mommy/I need you mommy it just breaks my heart :(((</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can completely relate with what had happened. My girls are 1 year 18 days apart. They are 2 1/2 and 1 1/2. I NEVER thought even when my first was born that I would yell or spank. Wow have things changed!!! I am full time student and full time mother. I am trying to work on this whole juggling life thing. I get stressed,tired,migraines and at times have break downs!! I have found myslef yelling at my 2 1/3 year old for things like begging me for a crakcer then crumbling it up on my bed. SHe would beg for milk in her crib then not take a nap and I come in to find that she spit the milk all over.. Ther are many more instances I wont get into, with her issues with her diaper, yet she wont go on the potty. To make matters worse her 18 month old sister is following after her (both get out of their cribs!! It is comforting to know that I am not alone! Time out dont ever work for me. Some times it take a good yell to get there attention. I hope that having some connections on here we can all support each other!! Oh BTW the guilt I feel when I yell and spank at times is unbearable. When she cries for me and says I love you mommy/I need you mommy it just breaks my heart <img src='http://www.suburbanjungle.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> ((</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, i have experienced so much of this myself, from the point of view of a parent (of an only chlild, and this is some of the reason why he is one) and as a teacher. Why must we feel so shamed at an outburst? Do we have to feel guilt when every other day we hold it in and do the right thing? So many parents are “afraid” of their children, tip-toeing around them, giving them unrealistic choices in order to teach them fairness and other behavior. Well, you know what, sometimes if a child is being completley out of control, obnoxious and pushing the limeits, maybe a “shut up” puts a dose of reality to the situation.
Please, as mothers, we need to step out of our bubbles and realize if we are not going to teach our children social manners and acceptable standards to live by..WHO THE
H *LL is?!?!
I appreciate all the honest, forthwright and unacceptable moments of motherhood and frankly makes it easier to be a better mommy for my child when I know I am not alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, i have experienced so much of this myself, from the point of view of a parent (of an only chlild, and this is some of the reason why he is one) and as a teacher. Why must we feel so shamed at an outburst? Do we have to feel guilt when every other day we hold it in and do the right thing? So many parents are “afraid” of their children, tip-toeing around them, giving them unrealistic choices in order to teach them fairness and other behavior. Well, you know what, sometimes if a child is being completley out of control, obnoxious and pushing the limeits, maybe a “shut up” puts a dose of reality to the situation.<br />
Please, as mothers, we need to step out of our bubbles and realize if we are not going to teach our children social manners and acceptable standards to live by..WHO THE<br />
H *LL is?!?!<br />
I appreciate all the honest, forthwright and unacceptable moments of motherhood and frankly makes it easier to be a better mommy for my child when I know I am not alone!</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://www.thesuburbanjungle.com/mothering/comment-page-1#comment-6417</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait until he’s a teen. “Shut Up” will be one of the nicer things you’ll yell…</description>
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		<title>By: Chele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our children our not perfect-even though we like to believe they are, are neither are we. I had another round with my 9 1/2 yr old daughter tonight. She is 9 going on 18. My husband and I wanted to go out tonight and it was a spur of the moment decision. He found a friend of his to watch our daughter for the night. My daughter look me right in the face and yelled “YOU DIDNT TELL ME! I DONT WANT HER TO BABYSIT! I WANT __’S MOM TO DO IT!! and it went on and on. My child yelled, cried, ranted and raved all at once and at the top of her lungs saying it was not fair, I didn’t ask her, and she is mad at me. The mad at me turned into “I hate you!” I lost my cool. I yelled right back at her in the same volume and tone she had to shut up, stop crying and she was grounded. I hate yelling at her and being the mean mom, but she has the personality where she will push and push trying to get us to give in. I honestly do not know how parents can make “Love and Logic” work.
Needless to say we did not go out tonight. Because we were all too upset for anyone to enjoy a night out.
I remind myself it is not physical or emotional abuse. When I tucked her into bed tonight we shared our hugs, said “I love you.” and talked about what had happened earlier.
Our kids did not come with instruction manuals nor with one that included the chapter on how to not say the “s” words to our kids. They will be ok and so will we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our children our not perfect-even though we like to believe they are, are neither are we. I had another round with my 9 1/2 yr old daughter tonight. She is 9 going on 18. My husband and I wanted to go out tonight and it was a spur of the moment decision. He found a friend of his to watch our daughter for the night. My daughter look me right in the face and yelled “YOU DIDNT TELL ME! I DONT WANT HER TO BABYSIT! I WANT __’S MOM TO DO IT!! and it went on and on. My child yelled, cried, ranted and raved all at once and at the top of her lungs saying it was not fair, I didn’t ask her, and she is mad at me. The mad at me turned into “I hate you!” I lost my cool. I yelled right back at her in the same volume and tone she had to shut up, stop crying and she was grounded. I hate yelling at her and being the mean mom, but she has the personality where she will push and push trying to get us to give in. I honestly do not know how parents can make “Love and Logic” work.<br />
Needless to say we did not go out tonight. Because we were all too upset for anyone to enjoy a night out.<br />
I remind myself it is not physical or emotional abuse. When I tucked her into bed tonight we shared our hugs, said “I love you.” and talked about what had happened earlier.<br />
Our kids did not come with instruction manuals nor with one that included the chapter on how to not say the “s” words to our kids. They will be ok and so will we.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely understand, tonight I flew off the handle and I’m not sure why. My son has the worst thing with vegetables and I’m am so sick of him thinking he can do whatever he wants. It could have been a combination of me going back to work and being stressed out from my husband starting his own business, but I flew off the handle it started with me sitting with him at the table telling him we weren’t leaving until he ate the three green beans to an hour later me screaming at the top of my lungs because he had only eaten one of them. I threw the plate into the sink (breaking it) and sent him to his room…After yelling at him. It felt good but after I realized what I did to him I started to cry, I have NEVER gone off on him like I did tonight and finally after him and I had both calmed down I went in and talked to him. I’m not sure what came over me though….I wish it hadn’t happened but it did. I felt so bad after words, its just so hard to have that balance between discipline and fun mom….so I totally understand where you are coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely understand, tonight I flew off the handle and I’m not sure why. My son has the worst thing with vegetables and I’m am so sick of him thinking he can do whatever he wants. It could have been a combination of me going back to work and being stressed out from my husband starting his own business, but I flew off the handle it started with me sitting with him at the table telling him we weren’t leaving until he ate the three green beans to an hour later me screaming at the top of my lungs because he had only eaten one of them. I threw the plate into the sink (breaking it) and sent him to his room…After yelling at him. It felt good but after I realized what I did to him I started to cry, I have NEVER gone off on him like I did tonight and finally after him and I had both calmed down I went in and talked to him. I’m not sure what came over me though….I wish it hadn’t happened but it did. I felt so bad after words, its just so hard to have that balance between discipline and fun mom….so I totally understand where you are coming from.</p>
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